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 Post subject: Re: FRAME 5 ORDERS
PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:12 am 

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Is it Leipzig or Dresden or Hamburg? Personally and given it's near the anniversary of the Dresden bombing, I think we should avoid Dresden, it's been a debating point ever since, even to the extent of being classified as a war crime. Even Churchill had difficulty justifying it afterwards.

Are the "aerial photos" taken by our heroic recon pilot, of Leipzig or Hamburg? If we head to the centre of Germany rather than a port, a similar route to last week can be taken but I recall from last week, I was ambushed by 2 163's about 25-30 miles from the axis/allied line so I don't think a southerly target will necessarily be safer unless you limit the fields they can use.

Given the lack of cohesion with the bomber formations, I think we should go as one group, this will help the escorts as well. Perhaps cap the height to 25-27K and limit the fuel to 60% maximum, even this amount leaves loads left over given we are landing in mainland Europe & not the UK, it could be less or are you trying to handicap the bombers with weight?

On a historical point, German radar was severely curtailed at this point, can we limit radar effectiveness?

Finally, when will final orders be issued?

I'll keep monitoring posts.

Phil


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:56 pm 
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F95 should be Liepzig, sir. At least according to Google maps.
What was the altitude last week on the ingress? 2000 ft below that should give some room for lower throttle for the buff lead. 25k might be to low, as this puts the Axis piston fighters near their full throttle height. At 27-28k our escort fighters have a much better speed advantage over them.

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/Robert


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:02 pm 
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Posting order In a new thread. TARGET f95!!!!


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:22 pm 

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Leipzig. OK. Suggest Bomber group is lead as one with stragglers using doglegs to catch up which is the general idea. Where are we to expect axis fighters? And what type?

What is load out, fuel load and altitude, hopefully not as high as last week, + do we run with 2 or 3 AI's?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:54 pm 
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Please clarify. We looking to destroy specific buildings or 75% of the buildings in the F95 targeted areas?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:52 pm 
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All target info is on a new thread called... NEW ORDERS FRAME 5 MOB


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